Support X68000 hard disk FAT BPB #205

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opened 2026-01-29 15:13:07 +00:00 by claunia · 6 comments
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Originally created by @bleuge on GitHub (Apr 8, 2018).

I am looking for a tool to support HDS images for X68000 systems and emulators.

I've read the tool support X68k DIM disk image files and Human68k (Sharp X68000) partitions table.

Tried with this example: http://nfggames.com/X68000/Games/X68000_MDX.7z

Partition 0:
Partition name:
Partition type: Human68k
Partition start: sector 64, byte 32768
Partition length: 1843134 sectors, 943684608 bytes
Partition scheme: Human 68k partitions
Partition description:

But failed Id'ing the filesystem

Identifying filesystem on partition
Filesystem not identified

I am not an expert in these images, but found some of them. I've tried to open them with classical DiskExplorer tool (v1.69e), but it also fails.

If I can help in getting other examples, I can provide them.

Originally created by @bleuge on GitHub (Apr 8, 2018). I am looking for a tool to support HDS images for X68000 systems and emulators. I've read the tool support X68k DIM disk image files and Human68k (Sharp X68000) partitions table. Tried with this example: http://nfggames.com/X68000/Games/X68000_MDX.7z Partition 0: Partition name: Partition type: Human68k Partition start: sector 64, byte 32768 Partition length: 1843134 sectors, 943684608 bytes Partition scheme: Human 68k partitions Partition description: But failed Id'ing the filesystem Identifying filesystem on partition Filesystem not identified I am not an expert in these images, but found some of them. I've tried to open them with classical DiskExplorer tool (v1.69e), but it also fails. If I can help in getting other examples, I can provide them.
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@claunia commented on GitHub (Apr 9, 2018):

HDS disk images are supported, as are HDF ones.

However Human used a different BPB for their hard disk FAT implementation whose structure currently I don't know.

Images are not a problem, what I need is documentation, technical one and/or the SDK documentation.

@claunia commented on GitHub (Apr 9, 2018): HDS disk images are supported, as are HDF ones. However Human used a different BPB for their hard disk FAT implementation whose structure currently I don't know. Images are not a problem, what I need is documentation, technical one and/or the SDK documentation.
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@IgorPetrovich commented on GitHub (Oct 24, 2023):

My question next...
Need Help Or Info About HDD Format .HDS For Sharp x68000, How Open This And See For Work With This In editdisk (Disk Explorer)?
I can easy make this HDD disc with format .HDS, but can't open or i mean see in editdisk (Disk Explorer)...
With HDD ( .HDF ) it is easy working...
Before need formatting this new HDD ( .HDS ) or what? Emulators have "Logical Formating" only for .HDF, when you are just making this one new HDD ( .HDF)... But, for HDD ( .HDS ) not have option "Formatting" in emulators...
Also i asked same in reddit, and what i already haves do at long time... Spended many to do of many time, days, but still can't get results... 😦 Downloaded many differeent emulators ( Of computer Sharp x68000 ), programs, utilities from diferent sites eng, jp, etc, was do many tests, and still fail...
I know this is possible, because i saw in internet popular archives " X68000 " ; "X68000V4" - " X68000_V4.HDS ", with many games in it on HDD ( .HDS ) , but i want to understood and know how they got it in .HDS?
In .HDF, i very easy understand by time, by myself, how put, and run games on it in emulators, but main problem with .HDS, it is even can't be opened , i mean seen in editdisk (Disk Explorer)...
Any ideas or info from who know, why? And what need to do? Formatting? Which program then for it? Or what need?

@IgorPetrovich commented on GitHub (Oct 24, 2023): My question next... Need Help Or Info About HDD Format .HDS For Sharp x68000, How Open This And See For Work With This In editdisk (Disk Explorer)? I can easy make this HDD disc with format .HDS, but can't open or i mean see in editdisk (Disk Explorer)... With HDD ( .HDF ) it is easy working... Before need formatting this new HDD ( .HDS ) or what? Emulators have "Logical Formating" only for .HDF, when you are just making this one new HDD ( .HDF)... But, for HDD ( .HDS ) not have option "Formatting" in emulators... Also i asked same in reddit, and what i already haves do at long time... Spended many to do of many time, days, but still can't get results... 😦 Downloaded many differeent emulators ( Of computer Sharp x68000 ), programs, utilities from diferent sites eng, jp, etc, was do many tests, and still fail... I know this is possible, because i saw in internet popular archives " X68000 " ; "X68000V4" - " X68000_V4.HDS ", with many games in it on HDD ( .HDS ) , but i want to understood and know how they got it in .HDS? In .HDF, i very easy understand by time, by myself, how put, and run games on it in emulators, but main problem with .HDS, it is even can't be opened , i mean seen in editdisk (Disk Explorer)... Any ideas or info from who know, why? And what need to do? Formatting? Which program then for it? Or what need?
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@IgorPetrovich commented on GitHub (Oct 28, 2023):

After time i found solved on question 1, about how make HDD ( .HDS )
All sucesfully done by this method, which i was do, and typed full information, and guide \ tutorial for someone else who also will be need this ( In future maybe or right now )...:
What i was do step by step for make HDD ( .HDS )?!
1.: Open Emulator XM6 Pro-68k or xm6_typeg_336_20230523
2.: Chose in options - Tools - Create - Fixed Disc SCSI - HDD ( .HDS ) , with sizes for tests 100 \ 1000 Mb ( In Fact 99 \ 999 Mb)
Choose Sizes ( Capacity )
Other Options:
Options Must Be On "Attached to interface." And "Replace First Drive."
Press "OK"
Checking What In Options Of Emulator, In Option SCSI - SCSI Interface - Internal - SCSI Discs ( via SCSI Interface ) - Drives ( 1 ) - ID ( 0 ) - SCSI-HD Image File ( .HDS )
3.: After created HDD ( .HDS ), i opened Emulator XM6 Pro-68k \ xm6_typeg_336_20230523 , Options - Floppy Drive #0 - MasterDisk_V3
4.: In DOS , in first i typed Command "FORMAT"
5.: Chosed "SCSI Devices" - Enter - "Hard Disc" - Enter - "Initalise" - Enter ( Y ) - "Create" - Enter - "Size"- Enter - Chosed Sizes ( 99 Mb ), by Typed this in window ( In Down Of The Screen ) - Enter -"Start" - Enter - "Create new partition" - "Y" , and got this results in end:
https://i.ibb.co/M2pdx89/44444444.png
6.: "End" - Enter.
7.: Do you want to reset? Most changes to the Partitions need it... Chosed - "Reset" ( By Press "Y" )
Done!
HDD Disc, with format .HDS - already created, formatted, can be readable now, now must be visible( In Programs \ Utilities \ In Emulators ), and ready to work ( For example in Disc Explorer ) .
P.S.:
I really like to write a lot and in detail, describing each point in detail... :)

@IgorPetrovich commented on GitHub (Oct 28, 2023): After time i found solved on question 1, about how make HDD ( .HDS ) All sucesfully done by this method, which i was do, and typed full information, and guide \ tutorial for someone else who also will be need this ( In future maybe or right now )...: What i was do step by step for make HDD ( .HDS )?! 1.: Open Emulator XM6 Pro-68k or xm6_typeg_336_20230523 2.: Chose in options - Tools - Create - Fixed Disc SCSI - HDD ( .HDS ) , with sizes for tests 100 \ 1000 Mb ( In Fact 99 \ 999 Mb) Choose Sizes ( Capacity ) Other Options: Options Must Be On "Attached to interface." And "Replace First Drive." Press "OK" Checking What In Options Of Emulator, In Option SCSI - SCSI Interface - Internal - SCSI Discs ( via SCSI Interface ) - Drives ( 1 ) - ID ( 0 ) - SCSI-HD Image File ( .HDS ) 3.: After created HDD ( .HDS ), i opened Emulator XM6 Pro-68k \ xm6_typeg_336_20230523 , Options - Floppy Drive #0 - MasterDisk_V3 4.: In DOS , in first i typed Command "FORMAT" 5.: Chosed "SCSI Devices" - Enter - "Hard Disc" - Enter - "Initalise" - Enter ( Y ) - "Create" - Enter - "Size"- Enter - Chosed Sizes ( 99 Mb ), by Typed this in window ( In Down Of The Screen ) - Enter -"Start" - Enter - "Create new partition" - "Y" , and got this results in end: https://i.ibb.co/M2pdx89/44444444.png 6.: "End" - Enter. 7.: Do you want to reset? Most changes to the Partitions need it... Chosed - "Reset" ( By Press "Y" ) Done! HDD Disc, with format .HDS - already created, formatted, can be readable now, now must be visible( In Programs \ Utilities \ In Emulators ), and ready to work ( For example in Disc Explorer ) . P.S.: I really like to write a lot and in detail, describing each point in detail... :)
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@claunia commented on GitHub (Oct 29, 2023):

@IgorPetrovich sorry we'm not understanding what are you trying to provide?

This issue has been fixed as indicated in:
@claunia closed this as completed in 97073e34f0 on Apr 9, 2018

We already support and extract files from X68000 disk images, and operating system, as well as support their extended length Shift-JIS filenames, so...

Are you trying to report a new bug?

@claunia commented on GitHub (Oct 29, 2023): @IgorPetrovich sorry we'm not understanding what are you trying to provide? This issue has been fixed as indicated in: @[claunia](https://github.com/claunia) closed this as [completed](https://github.com/aaru-dps/Aaru/issues?q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aclosed+archived%3Afalse+reason%3Acompleted) in https://github.com/aaru-dps/Aaru/commit/97073e34f02a55cb9aa368fd46d3afbee0a820ee [on Apr 9, 2018](https://github.com/aaru-dps/Aaru/issues/173#event-1564411660) We already support and extract files from X68000 disk images, and operating system, as well as support their extended length Shift-JIS filenames, so... Are you trying to report a new bug?
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@IgorPetrovich commented on GitHub (Oct 29, 2023):

Hm.
I see now.
I thinked here is was about other analogical problem...(Which also solved now)
Sorry, this all because language barrier...

@IgorPetrovich commented on GitHub (Oct 29, 2023): Hm. I see now. I thinked here is was about other analogical problem...(Which also solved now) Sorry, this all because language barrier...
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@robin-francois commented on GitHub (Oct 29, 2023):

Hello @IgorPetrovich,

Maybe you can talk in the language you know best and we shall use machine translation. That might be easier for everyone.

@robin-francois commented on GitHub (Oct 29, 2023): Hello @IgorPetrovich, Maybe you can talk in the language you know best and we shall use machine translation. That might be easier for everyone.
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Reference: aaru-dps/Aaru-aaru-dps#205