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FAST_FAIL_FATAL_APP_EXIT during defapp invocation after logon #15934
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Originally created by @ianjoneill on GitHub (Nov 20, 2021).
Windows Terminal version
1.11.2921.0
Windows build number
10.0.22000.318
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Steps to reproduce
Unfortunately this just happened with no interaction following logon, however I don't have windows terminal set to start up on logon.
This makes me think it must have been a defapp invocation because I certainly didn't trigger it. The app appeared for a split second, then disappeared.
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Actual Behavior
Crash dump appeared in
%LOCALAPPDATA%\CrashDumps.Can provide the dump by email if that would be useful.
WinDbg output:
@zadjii-msft commented on GitHub (Nov 22, 2021):
That definitely would be, my email is in my profile ☺️ (maybe ping me on this thread when you sent it so I can check all the various filtered folders, thanks!)
@ianjoneill commented on GitHub (Nov 22, 2021):
I've sent the dump via email.
Out of curiosity, is there any reason why the debug symbols for release builds aren't pushed to the Microsoft symbol servers?
@ianjoneill commented on GitHub (Dec 6, 2021):
@zadjii-msft did you get the crash dump, or would you like me to resend it?
@zadjii-msft commented on GitHub (Dec 7, 2021):
Sorry yea, I did get it, just distracted with other tasks. Loading the symbols up now ☺️
@erica647 commented on GitHub (Dec 22, 2021):
I just received what appears to be the same crash dump in Windows 11 version 22000.376 with Terminal version 1.11.3471.0... WinDBG Output:
0:000> !analyze -v
KEY_VALUES_STRING: 1
FILE_IN_CAB: WindowsTerminal.exe.8524.dmp
NTGLOBALFLAG: 0
PROCESS_BAM_CURRENT_THROTTLED: 0
PROCESS_BAM_PREVIOUS_THROTTLED: 0
APPLICATION_VERIFIER_FLAGS: 0
CONTEXT: (.ecxr)
rax=0000000000000001 rbx=000000db070ff3c0 rcx=0000000000000007
rdx=000000000000000f rsi=000000db070fe9a0 rdi=00000000ffffffff
rip=00007ff953f8dd7e rsp=000000db070fe050 rbp=000000db070fe1b0
r8=0000000000000001 r9=000000db070fdff8 r10=0000000000000012
r11=0000000000020020 r12=0000000000000000 r13=000000db070feb80
r14=000000db070fe360 r15=000000db070fe390
iopl=0 nv up ei pl nz na pe nc
cs=0033 ss=002b ds=002b es=002b fs=0053 gs=002b efl=00000202
ucrtbase!abort+0x4e:
00007ff9`53f8dd7e cd29 int 29h
Resetting default scope
EXCEPTION_RECORD: (.exr -1)
ExceptionAddress: 00007ff953f8dd7e (ucrtbase!abort+0x000000000000004e)
ExceptionCode: c0000409 (Security check failure or stack buffer overrun)
ExceptionFlags: 00000001
NumberParameters: 1
Parameter[0]: 0000000000000007
Subcode: 0x7 FAST_FAIL_FATAL_APP_EXIT
PROCESS_NAME: WindowsTerminal.exe
ERROR_CODE: (NTSTATUS) 0xc0000409 - The system detected an overrun of a stack-based buffer in this application. This overrun could potentially allow a malicious user to gain control of this application.
EXCEPTION_CODE_STR: c0000409
EXCEPTION_PARAMETER1: 0000000000000007
STACK_TEXT:
000000db
070fe050 00007ff953f8d499 : 000000db00000003 000000db00000003 00007ff926a762b0 00007ff926a76280 : ucrtbase!abort+0x4e000000db
070fe080 00007ff947111aab : 000000db070ff3c0 000000db070fe9a0 000000db070fe360 000000db070fe360 : ucrtbase!terminate+0x29000000db
070fe0b0 00007ff947112317 : 00007ff90fa233a3 00007ff90fa4c18c 000000db070fe2d0 00007ff926a62519 : VCRUNTIME140_1!FindHandler<__FrameHandler4>+0x45b000000db
070fe280 00007ff9471140d9 : 00007ff768df0000 000000db070ff3c0 000000db070feb80 000000db070fe9a0 : VCRUNTIME140_1!__InternalCxxFrameHandler<__FrameHandler4>+0x267000000db
070fe320 00007ff768dff664 : 000000db070ff710 00007ff768e23354 000000db070ff3c0 000000db070ff710 : VCRUNTIME140_1!__CxxFrameHandler4+0xa9000000db
070fe390 00007ff9565c82ff : 0000000000000000 000000db070fe950 000000db070ff3c0 0000000000000081 : WindowsTerminal+0xf664000000db
070fe3c0 00007ff956555a0a : 000000db070ff3c0 00007ff768df0000 00007ff768df44ca 00007ff768e2d1bc : ntdll!RtlpExecuteHandlerForException+0xf000000db
070fe3f0 00007ff956552cd3 : 0000000000000000 000000db070ff270 0000000000000000 00007ff956552c3f : ntdll!RtlDispatchException+0x25a000000db
070feb40 00007ff95407478c : 0000000000000000 00007ff768e280f8 000000db070ff510 0000000000000000 : ntdll!RtlRaiseException+0x163000000db
070ff3a0 00007ff926a66480 : 0000000000000000 0000000000000000 0000000000000000 00007ff956548db8 : KERNELBASE!RaiseException+0x6c000000db
070ff480 00007ff768e02aa3 : 00000253ea6582d0 00000000800706be 00000000800706be 00000253ea6910f0 : VCRUNTIME140!_CxxThrowException+0x90000000db
070ff4e0 00007ff768e0150e : 00000253ea661580 00000253ea661580 00000253ea6910f0 00000253ea691208 : WindowsTerminal+0x12aa3000000db
070ff540 00007ff768df44ca : 0000000000000000 00000253e8d8b228 000000db070ffae8 000000db070ffad0 : WindowsTerminal+0x1150e000000db
070ff710 00007ff768df127e : 000000000000000a 000000000000000a 0000000000000000 0000000000000000 : WindowsTerminal+0x44ca000000db
070ff9e0 00007ff768dfc482 : 0000000000000000 0000000000000000 0000000000000000 0000000000000000 : WindowsTerminal+0x127e000000db
070ffba0 00007ff954fe54e0 : 0000000000000000 0000000000000000 0000000000000000 0000000000000000 : WindowsTerminal+0xc482000000db
070ffbe0 00007ff95652485b : 0000000000000000 0000000000000000 0000000000000000 0000000000000000 : kernel32!BaseThreadInitThunk+0x10000000db
070ffc10 0000000000000000 : 0000000000000000 0000000000000000 0000000000000000 0000000000000000 : ntdll!RtlUserThreadStart+0x2bSYMBOL_NAME: ucrtbase!abort+4e
MODULE_NAME: ucrtbase
IMAGE_NAME: ucrtbase.dll
STACK_COMMAND: ~0s ; .ecxr ; kb
FAILURE_BUCKET_ID: FAIL_FAST_FATAL_APP_EXIT_c0000409_ucrtbase.dll!abort
OS_VERSION: 10.0.22000.1
BUILDLAB_STR: co_release
OSPLATFORM_TYPE: x64
OSNAME: Windows 10
IMAGE_VERSION: 10.0.22000.1
FAILURE_ID_HASH: {e31753ac-c98a-8055-3663-47e707543d20}
Followup: MachineOwner
This also happened to me on startup and was definitely a surprise since I don't have Terminal set to run at startup.
@ianjoneill commented on GitHub (May 25, 2022):
@zadjii-msft I've had another one of these crashes recently apparently - on 2022-05-19.
Now that debug symbols are available, it looks like the crash (assuming it's the same) is somewhere in
WindowManager::ProposeCommandline(), which I know is your domain!For some reason WinDbg isn't giving the the line number in
ProposeCommandline()- I'm not sure why...I can email over the dump if that's useful.
Output of
!analyze -v:@ianjoneill commented on GitHub (May 25, 2022):
OK so I'm not seeing a line number, because apparently there aren't any symbols for the remoting module:
@zadjii-msft commented on GitHub (May 25, 2022):
@ianjoneill Which Terminal version are you on? That stack looks awfully a lot like the ones that should have been fixed in {#12666, #12838, #12825}.
Failure hash
{53231a3c-a7ad-15be-67fb-05120d4c1d20}(MSFT:38542548) looks like it's still active on Terminal Preview 1.13.1098*.0, but I can't find ANY dumps reported for {e31753ac-c98a-8055-3663-47e707543d20}There's also apparently been a single hit ofOh, wait, this one's the ARM version of6483b1ae-b101-d12c-e7e2-7fb21af6f2b4on 1.14, which is ANOTHER hash of this sameFAIL_FAST_FATAL_APP_EXIT_CPP_EXCEPTION_c0000409_WindowsTerminal.exe!AppHost::_HandleCommandlineArgscrash. So annoying.53231a3c-a7ad-15be-67fb-05120d4c1d20above. Ignore me.@ianjoneill commented on GitHub (May 25, 2022):
The crash was from version 1.13.10984.0.
@ianjoneill commented on GitHub (Jun 3, 2022):
Just got another one of these on 1.14.1452.0 - again during a defapp launch on login. I may have been imagining it, but I think there were 2 terminal windows opened in quick succession.
Oddly the hash bucket detailed in event viewer is different to that reported by WinDbg - maybe that's why you couldn't find it last time?
There don't appear to be debug symbols for the remoting module of the terminal again, which is a little annoying if you can't find the trace on your end. Any ideas why?
`analyze -v` output
@zadjii-msft commented on GitHub (Jul 8, 2022):
FWIW this definitely hasn't gone away. I ultimately still don't know the root cause.
There's MSFT:38572983 that's got the same(ish) stack. Hard to be sure it's the same root cause, because basically any error in
ProposeCommandlineends up in this same bucket underAppHost::_HandleCommandlineArgs.I looked at a dump (
6d7377b5-a84b-4a6b-8557-49d058063b39), for failure hashbc968a4d-8e74-054f-1bc1-9845eb660167, and in there, the crash was caused by aRPC_S_CALL_FAILED_DNE:RPC_S_CALL_FAILED_DNE
I bet we could just add that to the list of errors we're expecting to see.
Alternatively, we could just try the main body of code in the
catchalways. That body is used when we failed to ask the monarch to do something for us, at startup. Worst case scenario - there's a monarch alive that we can't communicate with, and some x-windowing stuff is wonky, but we'd probably just end up being a second monarch. IMO, that's probably safe enough. /cc @DHowett for thoughts.ultimately, I have no idea if that crash is the same as what you're seeing, because the structure of the code here makes the diagnosis really hard. I can only hope fixing MSFT:38572983 would also fix this.
(
bc968a4d-8e74-054f-1bc1-9845eb660167represents 8.85% of our crashes in 1.14 stable so far)@DHowett commented on GitHub (Jul 8, 2022):
I definitely think that we should fail as gracefully as possible, and that crashing is not doing that. If we need to become an isolated monarch, or a second monarch, or whatever... as long as the terminal ends up open and usable, I prefer it over any other option. :)
@zadjii-msft commented on GitHub (Jul 29, 2022):
I suspect this was fixed in #13604, but I'm gonna leave this open till we find out for sure if this got them all.
@zadjii-msft commented on GitHub (Aug 18, 2022):
This was finally fixed in 1.15.2203 which isn't a real build number, but anything above that should have the fix ☺️