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Originally created by @thomaslevesque on GitHub (Apr 21, 2023).
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Steps to reproduce
I'm not sure exactly when it happens. I use WT without issues, and after a while I notice the glitch; not sure what makes it appear. Once it starts appearing, it stays.
Expected Behavior
There should be no graphic artifacts on the desktop when I minimize or restore the window.
Actual Behavior
Whenever I minimize the window, small gray squares appear just above the taskbar:
The gray squares are only visible on the desktop. If any window masks that part of the desktop, they don't appear (in other words, they appear below all windows, with the lowest z-index).
Their number seems to match the number of open tabs in WT, although it's a bit inconsistent.
When I restore the window, I see just one small gray square in the top left corner of the screen:
It also appears below all windows except the WT window (i.e. when the WT window is maximized I still see the square in its top-left corner, but any other window masks it).
@DHowett commented on GitHub (Apr 21, 2023):
Hey, do you happen to have "mica4all" or "mica everywhere" (I can't remember the name!) installed?
@thomaslevesque commented on GitHub (Apr 21, 2023):
@DHowett no, never heard of it.
@ClaireCJS commented on GitHub (Jun 12, 2023):
This sounds very much like the bug i'm reporting too (picture below).
I posted a video of it on youtube:
Does yours behave in a similar manner?
https://github.com/microsoft/terminal/issues/15536#issuecomment-1587351533
@thomaslevesque commented on GitHub (Jun 13, 2023):
Not exactly. I just see small grey squares, not rectangles like in your screenshot. Might be related, though.
(haven't seen this in a while btw, maybe it's been fixed?)
@ClaireCJS commented on GitHub (Jun 13, 2023):
Interesting. If you look at my white rectangles, the right edge of them is a grey square - so it seems related, but different?
@zadjii-msft commented on GitHub (Sep 20, 2023):
If someone's still seeing this regularly, it might be helpful to know what the actual window class for that window is (with like, spyxx or winspy). I'd guess that it's either:
PseudoConsoleWindowDesktopWindowXamlSourceand which one it is would really change my theory of the root cause.
Also, knowing what version you're on would also help. If it's a xaml island window (for some reason), then 1.18 probably changed the way this presents itself.
@zadjii-msft commented on GitHub (Sep 20, 2023):
A thought: why are we using
WS_OVERLAPPEDWINDOWinstead ofWS_OVERLAPPED..?@ClaireCJS commented on GitHub (Sep 20, 2023):
I am. I hate it so much and it plagues me every day, but it's better than not using Windows Terminal and not even being able to see filenames with emoji & unicode in them. I hate hate hate hate hate hate hate it.
Okay! It seems Winspy is discontinued and now there's something called WinSpy++ that's basically the same thing.
I'd guess that it's either:
The classname is actually SHELLDLL_DefView. Seems to be associated with...explorer.exe?!?!?!
None of this happened for years (30yrs of that command line, 2 yrs of that command line on the same machine) until I installed Windows Terminal, then it happened, and always happened, consistently... Even if I ran my TCC/TakeCommand (jpsoft.com) command line without Windows Terminal wrapped around it. I'm pretty sure at some point I even tried uninstalling Windows Terminal, but nope, so I reinstalled it. It's quite perplexing and I'd love to get to the bottom of it.
Which version of windows terminal? 1.17.11461.0
I'm really limited by what's in the app store. I've failed to build it on my own and decided that's not an endeavor suited to me. However, I'd happily try a precompiled build of a later version if someone would supply it to me. [Windows 10.0.19045.3393]
Here's more info. I really wish WinSpy++ had a text-dump functionality to avoid awkward screenshotting:
@zadjii-msft commented on GitHub (Sep 20, 2023):
what the fishsticks is that? I've literally never heard of that, and it's for sure not something the Terminal is making ourselves.
@zadjii-msft commented on GitHub (Sep 20, 2023):
Wait hold up - what's the class of the teeny tiny window:

not the one that's seemingly appearing by the taskbar. There's... a lot of shell customizations you got going on there. I wouldn't be surprised if it was some weird combo of all those running together.
But that tiny white rectangle - that's the one I am pretty sure is caused by us
@ClaireCJS commented on GitHub (Sep 20, 2023):
There's no customizations I weren't running for at least 10 years before the day I installed windows terminal, and minimizing and un-minimizing windows terminal windows are what cause these to display.
I've had a unified constantly developed personal command line since the 1980s. It did not break until the day (technically, the minute) windows terminal came along.
This does not happen on any of the other machines where I use the exact same customizations without windows terminal.
Turning displayfusion off (which adds some buttons on window taskbars) does not change this.
@ClaireCJS commented on GitHub (Sep 20, 2023):
Anyway, those screenshots were from the tiny black square that isn't near the taskbar.
I'll happily gather screenshots of the ones by the taskbar too, if that helps!
@zadjii-msft commented on GitHub (Sep 20, 2023):
what the fuck
okay, so there's a good chance the
PseudoConsoleWindowis moving there when it's minimized. why tho@ClaireCJS commented on GitHub (Sep 20, 2023):
Is this a eureka moment? There's a lot I understand, but there's more I don't understand, including a lot of what's going on here! :)
@zadjii-msft commented on GitHub (Sep 20, 2023):
not really. If you've got winspy++ screenshots of what that rectangle looks like on your machine, that'll be helpful. I can't seem to find a combo of flags to turn on to make it become visible1 on my machine.
I mean, yea the window is WS_VISIBLE, but I mean like, visible to a human / rendered to the screen. Maybe this is some weird transparency thing? ↩︎
@ClaireCJS commented on GitHub (Sep 20, 2023):
I can do that.
Well, they look like this:
[winspy screenshots coming next comment]
@ClaireCJS commented on GitHub (Sep 20, 2023):
Here's the Winspy++ screenshots:
@zadjii-msft commented on GitHub (Sep 20, 2023):
Well, a couple curious things there:
Looks like it was a miss on the finder, for whatever reason.
Here's an idea though: if you go into WinSpy++, then hit
More >>, you should be able to find acmd.exe(ortcc.exeor whatever the shell is), with a pseudoconsolewindow underneath it (after double-clicking). Hit the Autoupdate button, and see how that window reacts to the Terminal restoring and being minimized. The Flash button is also helpful for ID'ing where on the screen a window should be (it will flash the bounds of a window even if the window isn't visible).Once you've got a lock on the right pseudoconsolewindow, share those screenshots?
@ClaireCJS commented on GitHub (Sep 20, 2023):
3072x1728? That's... not even the resolution of the desktop i'm dropping the finder on, it's a 1920x1080 desktop. 3 out of 4 of mine are. It's probably some combination of my 4 displays (31080p + 1VGA).
Yes, it appears that it's missing actually. And I missed that it was missing. oof
@ClaireCJS commented on GitHub (Sep 20, 2023):
Well, it's kind of hard to share the screen of the flash function flashing, but basically...
I'm starting to think Windows Terminal and multiple monitors and moving TCC to a different monitor somehow is causing some sort of disconnect where TCC might have leftover aspects of its windows in the original monitor from where it was moved from (and originally opened into) (i.e. primary monitor).
Flashing 002416B0 TCC.EXE "TCC:c658" captured the upper-left square and about 3 more square's width to the right. Small rectangle.
Flashing 07442Dc2 PsuedoConsoleWindow captured the upper-left square and a few pixels to the left of it.
Flashing Default IME - i see nothing
I'm staring to think this is specific to how Windows Terminal interacts with TCC when TCC is moved to another monitor. I have thought it behaved strange, but not quite been able to put my finger on it.
@zadjii-msft commented on GitHub (Sep 20, 2023):
Okay, maybe we've been tying two related but ultimately separate things here.
Quick way to separate these out: @ClaireCJS Do you see the same behavior without any
tcc.exetabs? Just a plain-old PowerShell or Command Prompt tab. Let's eliminate one variable here.We definitely do have reports of the tiny, top-left square without TCC, but this may be exacerbated by it. I'm tempted to switch to
But I need to sync with my user32 contact before I'd feel comfortable with that. It seems to remove the size when it's restored (the tiny rectangle), but not the tiny one....
@ClaireCJS commented on GitHub (Sep 20, 2023):
Oh, it's definitely TCC+Windows Terminal specific. I think it was phrased that way on it's own issue but then my issue got merged/mentioned into this issue since they're the same thing with apparently two different causes.
But yea, to answer your question, it doesn't happen with powershell tabs
but it also doesn't happen when TCC is run without windows terminal
I suspect TCC is doing something weird and nonstandard and Windows Terminal isn't detecting something it meant to detect correctly. It's kind of been the broad pattern.
@zadjii-msft commented on GitHub (Sep 20, 2023):
Oh butts you're right, there's a whole other thread for that.
I'm gonna de-merge them, move relevant comments over, and collapse things in this thread. Thanks for bearing with me ☺️
@zadjii-msft commented on GitHub (Sep 26, 2023):
How did I miss
Well then. I'm going to tenuously mark this
Fixed?, and give the community till the end of 1.20 to find a repro. If we don't hear anything, I'm gonna go ahead and say this was magically fixed along the way.If anyone DOES end up with a repro for this specifically1 , then a Task Manager dump of OpenConsole.exe (NOT WindowsTerminal.exe) might be enlightening.
not the TCC thing tracked in #15536 ↩︎
@thomaslevesque commented on GitHub (Sep 27, 2023):
Sounds good to me. If I see it again, I'll let you know.
@ShakoFarhad commented on GitHub (Jan 19, 2024):
This happens concistently still for me. I have reformatted and reinstalled windows 11 several times (Windows 11 Pro) on a modern and powerful laptop from Lenovo. I did not experience this on my previous laptop which was a Windows Surface Book 2.
Windows terminal:
Version: 1.18.3181.0
Laptop info:
Processor13th Gen Intel(R) Core(TM) i9-13905H 2.60 GHz
Installed RAM 64,0 GB
Version Windows 11 Pro
Version 23H2
Installed on 06.01.2024
Operating system build 22631.3007
Experience Windows Feature Experience Pack 1000.22681.1000.0
I have noticed these squares appear in the same way as described above after WSL ubuntu terminal being open over night or just over a long period of time. I noticed that the squares dissappear after restarting the PC. Once I noticed the squares dissappeared after running "wsl" in powershell as it seemed like WSL had turned itself off over night. Perhaps the root cause is WSL not gracefully shutting down while terminal windows are still open and the laptop is hibernation mode.
If possible, tell me if there is anything I can do to fix this.
EDIT: I will update this comment or make a new one when it happens again with the task manager dump. If possible, give me a step by step on how to do that if it is something specific as I have not done that before.
EDIT 2: I generated a DMP file for windows terminal when the squares returned again. It is 900 mb. What is the best way to share this info?
@zadjii-msft commented on GitHub (Feb 7, 2024):
@ShakoFarhad Sorry I missed that! You should be able to share that with the team following these steps: https://github.com/microsoft/terminal/wiki/Troubleshooting-Tips#share-with-the-team
Is it a dump of
windowsterminal.exe, oropenconsole.exe? We're pretty confident the squares are due toopenconsole.exe, (which Terminal uses)@thomaslevesque commented on GitHub (Feb 14, 2024):
Seeing this again, for the first time in a while:

Which one? I have 4 instances of OpenConsole.exe
@jonasmarco commented on GitHub (Aug 1, 2024):
07/31/2024
@zadjii-msft commented on GitHub (Sep 5, 2024):
I'm pretty sure that #17828 wasn't ultimately related to this, but can someone try out the latest Terminal Canary (>=1.23.2421.0) and see if that fixed this?
You can grab terminal canary from aka.ms/terminal-canary-installer
@Lukiticas commented on GitHub (Oct 28, 2024):
same here 28/10/2024
@DHowett commented on GitHub (Oct 28, 2024):
Are you using Preview or Stable? Which version exactly?
@Lukiticas commented on GitHub (Nov 1, 2024):
sorry for the late response, Stable, version 1.21.2911.0, win11 23H2 latest patch
@kovalexal commented on GitHub (Dec 27, 2024):
Still happening for me in Stable, version 1.21.3231.0, win11 24H2. Are there any resolutions that might work (at least as a temporary solution)?
It's a pity to change a terminal application because of a single bug.